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# Issue #214
- URL: https://softwaretestingweekly.com/issues/214/
- Published: 2024-04-07T19:06:51.000Z
- Updated: 2026-06-10T13:18:39.000Z
- Description: Developer-tester relationship 🤝
- Author: Dawid Dylowicz

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| Welcome to the **214th** issue!This discussion caught my attention:[Do you see hate for QA?](https://www.reddit.com/r/softwaretesting/comments/1bsn8kb/so%5Fmuch%5Fhate%5Ffor%5Fqa/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)People shared various stories and observations on the relationship between developers and testers.And while it depends on the company culture, and even individuals, it seems to be improving.The key takeaway is that effective communication and mutual understanding of each other's roles and responsibilities are crucial in maintaining a healthy relationship.Happy testing!*[Dawid Dylowicz](https://linkedin.com/in/dawid-dylowicz/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)*                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |
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| [Combinatorial Analysis: Transforming Software Testing with Mathematics](https://chroniclesofapragmaticprogrammer.substack.com/p/combinatorial-analysis-in-software-testing?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)How can maths help testers? [Rafael Miguel](https://www.linkedin.com/in/rafael-miguel-filho/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) spent a few months researching this topic and shared some intriguing insights in this super comprehensive overview.[chroniclesofapragmaticprogrammer.substack.com](https://chroniclesofapragmaticprogrammer.substack.com/p/combinatorial-analysis-in-software-testing?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         |
| [RAG for Quality Engineers](https://medium.com/slalom-build/rag-for-quality-engineers-c5f0828292b1?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)[Blake Norrish](https://www.linkedin.com/in/blake-norrish/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) explains how LLM systems work, how RAG (Retrieval-Augmented Generation) enhances them, and what it means for testing and quality of such solutions.[medium.com](https://medium.com/slalom-build/rag-for-quality-engineers-c5f0828292b1?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   |
| [Setting up Software QA Department from scratch?](https://www.reddit.com/r/softwaretesting/comments/1boi68z/setting%5Fup%5Fsoftware%5Fqa%5Fdepartment%5Ffrom%5Fscratch/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)If you find yourself in a company or a team that doesn't have a quality and testing process in place, this is what people advise you to do.On that note, I've once written a series of articles on [Joining a startup as a QA Lead](https://morethantesting.com/blog/joining-a-startup-as-qa-lead/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214).[reddit.com](https://www.reddit.com/r/softwaretesting/comments/1boi68z/setting%5Fup%5Fsoftware%5Fqa%5Fdepartment%5Ffrom%5Fscratch/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          |
| [Test Analysis Step by Step](https://medium.com/@emma.khomits/qa-guide-test-analysis-step-by-step-c6dc030baf5b?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)Test analysis is one of the crucial parts of the software testing life cycle. Here's a detailed guide to it by [Emma Khomits](https://gearheart.io/team/khomits/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214), followed up by a thorough set of [Test Design Techniques on Real Examples](https://medium.com/@emma.khomits/qa-guide-test-design-techniques-on-real-examples-b92472577d5c?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214).[medium.com](https://medium.com/@emma.khomits/qa-guide-test-analysis-step-by-step-c6dc030baf5b?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   |
| [Think Like A Tester And Use Simple Questions To Test Requirements](https://waynemroseberry.github.io/2024/03/29/Think-like-a-tester-and-use-simple-questions-to-test-requirements.html?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)*"We can only test something that exists, and at the requirements stage the only thing we have are our ideas."*[Wayne Roseberry](https://www.linkedin.com/in/wayneroseberry/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) uses an example to share a few tips on how to approach testing against requirements.[waynemroseberry.github.io](https://waynemroseberry.github.io/2024/03/29/Think-like-a-tester-and-use-simple-questions-to-test-requirements.html?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               |
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| AUTOMATION                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             |
| [Does Test Automation Necessarily Make Our Jobs Easier?](https://responsibleautomation.wordpress.com/2024/04/02/does-test-automation-necessarily-make-our-jobs-easier/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)Test automation is often portrayed as the promise of solving common problems with testing but [Paul Grizzaffi](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulgrizzaffi/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) gives a few reasons why it's not so straightforward.This thread also highlights some of these challenges: [If devs don't write unit tests, should QAs force them to do it?](https://www.reddit.com/r/QualityAssurance/comments/1bpvbrp/if%5Fdevs%5Fdont%5Fwrite%5Funit%5Ftests%5Fshould%5Fqas%5Fforce/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)[responsibleautomation.wordpress.com](https://responsibleautomation.wordpress.com/2024/04/02/does-test-automation-necessarily-make-our-jobs-easier/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)                  |
| [How to Implement POM Design Pattern with Selenium](https://medium.com/@hassanalhejaili7/how-to-implement-pom-design-pattern-with-selenium-2c0b2c47453c?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)[Hassan Alhejaili](https://www.linkedin.com/in/hassan-alhejaili/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) explains why we use the Page Object Model design pattern in test automation and shows examples of implementing it in [Selenium](https://selenium.dev/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) tests.[medium.com](https://medium.com/@hassanalhejaili7/how-to-implement-pom-design-pattern-with-selenium-2c0b2c47453c?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       |
| [Shifting UI tests to the far left (part 1)](https://medium.com/@ge.sotiropoulos/shifting-ui-tests-to-the-far-left-6784f798acc2?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)[Georgios Sotiropoulos](https://www.linkedin.com/in/gesotiropoulos/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) presents a sound idea on when and how we can begin testing in the software development life cycle by using UI tests as specifications.[medium.com](https://medium.com/@ge.sotiropoulos/shifting-ui-tests-to-the-far-left-6784f798acc2?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              |
| [UI tests on Android. How do we test an app that requires permissions?](https://medium.com/kasperskymedia/ui-tests-on-android-how-do-we-test-an-app-that-requires-permissions-62db15db4aca?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)Anyone who had to interact with permissions in automated mobile tests understands that it's not always straightforward. Here's one way of dealing with it, explained by [Andrey Sumin](https://medium.com/@suminfx3?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214).[medium.com](https://medium.com/kasperskymedia/ui-tests-on-android-how-do-we-test-an-app-that-requires-permissions-62db15db4aca?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         |
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| [Cypress selector trick](https://medium.com/@t79877005/cypress-selector-trick-fa121dfb78c0?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)[Cypress](https://github.com/cypress-io/cypress?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) recommends using specific data attributes to identify elements in tests. But what if they're not implemented yet? [Ioan Solderea](https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%95%B5ioan-s-b0928516/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) suggests a workaround solution.[medium.com](https://medium.com/@t79877005/cypress-selector-trick-fa121dfb78c0?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         |
| [Full parallelization in Playwright](https://blog.martioli.com/full-parallelization-with-playwright/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)If you're wondering how you can make your [Playwright](https://github.com/microsoft/playwright?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) test execution faster, here's a great guide by [Adrian Maciuc](https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrian-maciuc/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214).[blog.martioli.com](https://blog.martioli.com/full-parallelization-with-playwright/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           |
| [JavaScript vs TypeScript in Test Automation. A Closer Look at Playwright and Cypress](https://medium.com/@vadym%5Fnastoiashhyi/javascript-typescript-in-test-automation-a-closer-look-at-playwright-and-cypress-f9db1cd2f85c?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)With the rising popularity of TypeScript, you may wonder whether it's better to choose it over JavaScript for test automation. [Vadym Nastoiashchyi](https://www.linkedin.com/in/vadym-nastoiashchyi/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) explains the differences and advantages.You may also be interested in what other testers think about [Selenium VS Playwright](https://www.reddit.com/r/softwaretesting/comments/1bovaoa/selenium%5Fvs%5Fplaywright/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214).[medium.com](https://medium.com/@vadym%5Fnastoiashhyi/javascript-typescript-in-test-automation-a-closer-look-at-playwright-and-cypress-f9db1cd2f85c?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) |
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| VIDEOS                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 |
| [10 Bad Reasons Why Companies Don't Hire Testers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214&v=CgrxjEgAeAw)We can observe a decreased demand for testers over the past 1.5 years. But why is that exactly? [Daniel Knott](https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-knott/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) goes through the potential causes.In relation to that, someone started a similar discussion on Reddit: [It freaks me out that not all companies use software testing!](https://www.reddit.com/r/softwaretesting/comments/1btmqei/it%5Ffreaks%5Fme%5Fout%5Fthat%5Fnot%5Fall%5Fcompanies%5Fuse/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214)[youtube.com](https://www.youtube.com/watch?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214&v=CgrxjEgAeAw)                                                                                                                                                                                               |
| [How I Got 2 QA Job Offers in a Month and a Half in this Market](https://www.youtube.com/watch?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214&v=Dy0FyvEnysg)Tough times require clever solutions. [Alex Khvastovich](https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexkhvastovich/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) explains how he prepared for successful job seeking as a tester.Similarly, [Pramod Dutta](https://www.linkedin.com/in/pramoddutta/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) shares a few tips on [How I Got 50+ Interview Calls From LinkedIn in 2024](https://www.youtube.com/watch?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214&v=yMzIR7GjJfg).[youtube.com](https://www.youtube.com/watch?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214&v=Dy0FyvEnysg)                                                                                                                                                                           |
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| [Developers & testers...](https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/1bcjrlf/strongfriendship/?utm%5Fcampaign=Software%2BTesting%2BWeekly&utm%5Fsource=Software%5FTesting%5FWeekly%5F214) 😅                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    |
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